New Research
Dr. Rita Horváth
2005-2006 Research Fellow

On Comparing Jewish Survivors’ Testimonies taken by the National Relief Committee for Deportees in Hungary and Other Large-Scale Historical-Memorial Projects of She’erit Hapletah in the Immediate Aftermath of the Holocaust (1945-1948)

Comparing Jewish survivors’ testimonies taken by various large-scale historical-memorial projects initiated and conducted by She’erit Hapletah (The Surviving Remnant) in the immediate aftermath of the Holocaust, reveals much, not only about the nature of Holocaust testimonies, but also ways in which they can serve as sources of historical, literal, psychological, anthropological, and linguistic research. Comparative studies of the different historical-memorial projects gauge, for example, the impact of their geographical, historical, and ideological contexts on their respective testimonies. As such, it is fruitful to compare Jewish survivors’ testimonies taken in Displaced Persons camps (DP-camps) from all over Europe with testimonies taken in the deportees’ countries of origin. It is especially illuminating to compare testimonies taken in DP-camps of Jews who had been deported from one socio-geopolitical unit or country, such as Hungary, with ones taken of survivors from that same country in local centers, like Budapest.
Since the testimonies taken in DP-camps were expected to relate the entire story of the Holocaust, they tend to present a more sweeping picture than the testimonies taken of survivors deported from one socio- geopolitical unit. Thus the relatively generalized picture of the Holocaust emerging from testimonies taken in DP-camps can be supplemented and refined by testimonies taken in local centers, such as those in Budapest where Jews who had been deported from a specific country were interviewed by survivors from that same country.
The biggest large-scale historical-memorial project in the immediate aftermath of the Holocaust was undertaken by the Central Historical Commission of the Central Committee of Liberated Jews in Munich, whose structure was modeled on the Central Jewish Historical Commission in Poland (which later became the Jewish Historical Institute). By comparing crucial aspects of the activities of the National Relief Committee for Deportees [Deportáltakat Gondozó Országos Bizottság, “DEGOB,” henceforth referred to as DEGOB] and the Central Historical Commission in Munich, I have created a framework that enables me to fruitfully compare the testimonies themselves. The comparison of the testimonies, however, remains essential for the comparative in-depth assessment of the projects’ activities owing to the great discrepancy between the types of sources documenting the DEGOB and the Central Historical Commission.
The Central Historical Commission undertook the task of documenting the life of She’erit Hapletah, of its political, cultural, educational, and memorial activities in the DP-camps and in the newly-established Jewish communities in Germany. Therefore, it painstakingly documented every aspect of its own activities as well. In 1948, its entire archive arrived in Israel. Today, the Yad Vashem Archives contain many documents and published material concerning the establishment and activities of the Central Historical Commission. We can follow step-by-step how policies of collecting testimonies were formed, debated, and altered, how various ideas were contested therein, and moreover study the kind of historical thinking that had informed them. Lectures presented in conferences of the historical commissions reflect upon the ongoing work of the commissions, by way of criticisms, suggestions, appeals, reports, etc. The fact that professional historians—most notably Philip Friedman—shaped the project of collecting testimonies makes these debates readily usable for historiographical research.
In the journal of the Central Historical Commission edited by Yisrael Kaplan, Fun Letzten Hurben, testimonies were published in order to serve as models for others yet to be given. We have the various questionnaires, which were compiled to assist in and somewhat standardize the collection of testimonies. Ada Schein views these questionnaires as lists of the chapter titles of monographs that would be written about the destroyed Jewish communities on the basis of the testimonies. Thus, Ada Schein sees the items on the questionnaires as guidelines not only for governing the collection of testimonies but also for staking out the kind of scholarship that would be constructed upon the collected testimonies.
By contrast, in the case of the DEGOB, we have almost no information on the assumptions governing the work of documentation. No self-reflexive literature has been uncovered. We do have a questionnaire, or rather a set of guidelines, but we do not know who put the questionnaire together. This questionnaire was clearly compiled to prepare the staff of the DEGOB for the job of taking down testimonies. It was definitely distributed among the interviewers; many pages were created by a stencil duplicator and numerous copies can be found in the Hungarian Jewish Archives (Budapest). From the end products, viz. from the protocols themselves, we can further infer that the overwhelming majority of the protocols were prepared according to the questionnaire as much as was possible.
Unfortunately, we have almost no information on the 29 interviewers of the DEGOB. They took down the protocols in shorthand and later typed them up. (The Hungarian Jewish Archives hold 3,662 numbered and approximately 50 unnumbered protocols, which were taken of approximately 5,000 people altogether, according to the estimations of Gábor Kádár and Zoltán Vági.) The shorthand versions can occasionally be found attached to the typed version. We can infer from the protocols that the interviewers were trained and disciplined intellectuals. That was, of course, Philip Friedman’s dream for the collection of testimonies in the DP-camps, where the incompetence of interviewers constituted the most serious grievance on the part of the leaders of the Central Historical Commission. The only interviewer about whom I had uncovered information in the American Jewish Archives (Cincinnati, USA) fully supports this inference: Miksa Weisz, a refugee from Germany, who was interned, taken to forced labor, and finally deported to Auschwitz, had studied music and been a teacher of English, German, and French.
The interviewers of the DEGOB were so skilled, that after the majority of the survivors had returned, alongside their continued practice of taking protocols of survivors who turned to DEGOB for assistance, they also engaged in a thoroughly scientific collection of historical data. The staff of DEGOB visited people whom they identified as key witnesses of the Holocaust in Hungary. Their aim was to collect the testimonies of those who had occupied key leadership positions among Hungarian Jewry. They also collected testimonies from those who were not prominent persons as such, but who had valuable information to share. Since the informant of Protocol No. 3628 worked in Strasshof in the so-called Distributing Office of Deportees, she had numerical information concerning the deportees from several ghettos and entrainment centers in Hungary (for example, on the deportees from Debrecen, Szeged, and Szolnok). In another protocol, one can find information on the camp in the brick factory of Budakalász. In the case of this protocol, even the heading is irregular. Instead of the personal particulars of the informant there appears the thematic title of the protocol: “Information on the concentration camp in the brick factory of Budakalász” (No. 3504). Protocol No. 3632 is also exceptional because of the special character of the information it contains therein. Its informant is Miklós Nyiszli, a physician from Nagyvárad (Oradea, today Romania), who worked under Mengele in Auschwitz. Later, in 1946, Nyiszli published his memoirs.
Naturally, these protocols have different structures from the ones taken from returning survivors, since the interviewer was not primarily interested in the personal experiences of the informant but rather in the organization or event with which the interviewee was associated. These protocols were taken either in the informant’s flat or in their places of work, which also indicates that the employees of DEGOB were actively seeking information. They even traveled out to the provinces. For example, one of the employees of DEGOB, Margit Oblath, conducted an explicit research. She collected the available data of those Jewish hospitals in Pest, which functioned during the period of the existence of the ghetto.
We can thus cull some information from the protocols about the processes and the people involved in their collection. The lack of self-reflexive documentation, however, still constitutes a methodological problem in my research. There were historical-minded intellectuals—such as world-famous statistician, Zsigmond Pál Pach, and jurist Siegfried Róth who later became the director of the World Jewish Congress’s office in London—participating in organizations and activities connected to the DEGOB, but there is no evidence whatsoever of their involvement in the documentational-historical work of the DEGOB itself.
Much can be learned in comparing the various guidelines or questionnaires that were prepared to assist in and standardize the process of taking testimonies from survivors. These guidelines, in which specific historical concepts are manifest, determine both the testimonies—the collection of the data—and the kind of historical, sociological, literary, anthropological, and psychological scholarship that could have been constructed upon the collected data. By comparing the guidelines and the actual testimonies it is possible to analyze the different underlying historiographic assumptions, research methods and aims that govern the collection of testimonies. The novelty of this approach lies in the attempt to assess the dynamic interrelationship of the changes in the conception of history on the one hand, and the changes in the notions of witnessing on the other—all of which occurred as a consequence of the Holocaust.
Both the DEGOB and the Central Historical Commission collected testimonies from survivors who were in transition. The initiators of the Central Historical Commission, especially Yisrael Kaplan, repeatedly emphasized the uniqueness of the opportunity of having many survivors concentrated in DP camps, where during the period of their mandatory suspension, before starting their lives anew elsewhere, they had time to record their memories. Moreover, they could help one another in the process of remembering, and check the accuracy of specific memories.
In retrospect, it seems, actually, that individuals engaged in documenting the history of the Holocaust of their own regions were in better position to realize Kaplan’s aims than the large-scale project of the Central Historical Commission. We can see this, for instance, in Leib Koniuchowsky’s collection, whose work Philip Friedman greatly valued.
Koniuchowsky, in his project, collected the testimonies of Jewish survivors from Lithuania. The testimonies Koniuchowsky took, and particularly his group testimonies reveal that as a collector of protocols he was also involved in stimulating the witnesses’ memories. He was especially effective in drawing upon the communal feelings of witnesses of the same region, which both stimulated their memories and opened up the possibility of checking facts, conditions Kaplan had found imperative. Whenever Koniuchowsky took individual or group testimonies, he made the informants sign every page. Moreover, in cases of group testimonies he held an official group meeting during which he read aloud the end product to the witnesses to ensure the document’s accuracy.
The DEGOB’s activities, in which the DEGOB staff took both individual and group testimonies, are closer in this respect to Koniuchowsky’s project than to the large-scale project of the Central Historical Commission, as the interviewers and the overwhelming majority of the interviewees were from the same geopolitical region: Hungary. Thus, sometimes more, sometimes less, the interviewers could summon that feeling of intra-communal understanding, which Koniuchowsky had fostered so intensely. However, the strict institutional setting of the DEGOB, lacking in projects initiated and carried out by individuals, seems to reduce the above described effect.
While the Central Historical Commission took testimonies of Jews who were so-to-say stuck in a transitional period of their lives as they awaited immigration, the DEGOB, having assisted returning deportees headed home, collected the majority of its testimonial protocols from survivors who were in such a state of transition that many had yet to reach their former home.
The DEGOB endeavored to assist every returning survivor upon his/her arrival in Budapest, and because of the structure of the Hungarian railway, the overwhelming majority of the survivors had to pass through Budapest on their way to their former home settlements. DEGOB employees were on duty day and night receiving survivors at Budapest’s train stations. They arranged for the arriving survivors to be provided with food and transported by various means to accommodation centers. The majority of the returnees were sent to the headquarters of the DEGOB at Bethlen Square.
The questionnaire of the DEGOB asks survivors about their future plans, whereas the historical questionnaire of the Central Historical Commission seeks information only through to the liberation. The Central Historical Commission does have a statistical questionnaire that inquires after survivors’ future plans.) The fact that the staff of the DEGOB was taking protocols of people even before they arrived at their former homes accounts for the frequency of such answers as, everything depended on whom the survivor would find alive at home.
There are testimonial protocols kept in Yad Vashem Archives and in the Hungarian Jewish Archives, which were taken in Budapest before liberation between November 1944 and January 1945. The majority of these protocols were recorded in the famous Glass House, located at No. 29 Vadász Street, 5th District, in Budapest. The official name of the Glass House after 24 July 1944 was the Swiss Embassy’s Office for the protection of Foreign Interests, Emigration Division [Svájci Követség Idegen Érdekek Képviselete Kivándorlási Osztály]. Various Zionist organizations worked there. They organized emigration to Palestine during the Holocaust.) Some of these protocols later became part of the DEGOB’s collection but many did not. The taking of witness accounts during the Holocaust shows that there existed an elemental need to record recent events. First of all, these testimonies can be fruitfully compared to other famous projects documenting the destruction of the Jews in the midst of the events of the Holocaust like the Oneg Shabbat Archives in Warsaw. They can also be compared to the survivors’ testimonies taken by the DEGOB immediately after the Holocaust.
The practice of contrasting testimonies taken by various large-scale historical-memorial projects can yield illuminating results, one of which I will describe presently. I have identified an apparently constant feature of the testimonies taken of survivors deported from Hungary that is significantly less apparent in testimonies taken of survivors from other countries. This characteristic is related both to the special features of the Holocaust in Hungary and to issues of witnessing. Since Hungary’s Jewish population was systematically destroyed at a very late stage in the Second World War, survivors’ stories are fraught with particular questions that have relentlessly haunted them ever since: Why did Hungarian Jews not try to flee or go into hiding? What did they actually know in the spring and summer of 1944 about the nature of the Nazi regime and the fate of Jews in countries occupied by the army of the Third Reich? Why did they disbelieve witness accounts of Nazi atrocities? Why did they not hide, at the very least, those women and children that were offered a hiding place or false papers? The accounts of Jews who were living within the borders of Hungary in 1944 are permeated with these questions, which continue to torment survivors who feel that they could have acted to prevent what had happened to them and their loved ones if only they had believed witness accounts of Nazi atrocities.
The survivors were and remain unable to decide precisely what they knew at the time, which is why an at times contradictory picture arises, of self-deception, illusion, of at once knowing and not knowing. This traumatic indecision is evident to a degree in many survivor accounts about the Holocaust, but it is a positively central motif and organizing principle in the testimonies of Jews deported from Hungary. Autobiographical, literary, and even scholarly writings by Hungarian Jewish survivors simultaneously claim that the Jews were wholly unaware of the meaning of ghettoization and deportation, and that they indeed did have some knowledge, some sound information about the fate of the Jews in Europe.
Randolph L. Braham, the doyen among historians scrutinizing the Holocaust of Hungarian Jews, identifies the existence of uninformed Jewish masses as the central issue of the Hungarian Holocaust in his book entitled The Politics of Genocide: The Holocaust in Hungary (New York: Columbia UP, 1994.) Braham turns this problem into a sharp ethical criticism of the Jewish leadership in Hungary, the Jewish Council, since according to Braham it would have been the duty of the well-informed leaders to warn the masses about their impending fate. In the same book, however, Braham acknowledges that the Jews of Hungary and not only their leaders did have access to information, from a variety of sources, concerning the systematic mass murder of Jews at the hands of the Nazis. The three most important sources that Braham enumerated were Jews fleeing from Poland and Slovakia; Hungarian forced labourers, returning from the Eastern front; and members of various Zionist youth organizations who had access to information known to the official Jewish leadership and who travelled in the provinces to inform the Jews about it.
Even though the DEGOB questionnaire only asks specific questions about what Jews knew and what they were prepared to believe couched among the questions concerning ghettoization, boarding the deporting train, and the journey on the train itself, the interviewees frequently return to these issues as part of other segments of their narration, especially in connection to their arrival in Auschwitz and the first selection on the ramp. The reason for this seems to be that arrival at the camp marked the final time deportees were forced to make existential decisions on life and death without the full, conscious, and inescapable knowledge of the place they had just been brought to. It was then that a person’s actual knowledge of the nature of recent events—ghettoization and deportation—and what one was prepared to believe about them, could still influence his or her fate. In this respect, whatever happened on the ramps was both the consequence and the summation of attitudes brought from home. Beyond the ramps no-one had any illusions: clear knowledge was forced on all. But on the ramps the question of one’s previous knowledge and preparedness came up for the last time with utmost force and clarity. As at home, people were exposed to conflicting information: German soldiers readily gave reassuring information about hospitals for the sick and the elderly, about family reunions, and so forth but, and even though it was forbidden, the Jewish prisoners who unloaded the trains usually managed to slip in a few words of advice to newcomers. The deportees had to swiftly decide who to help or whose hand to hold, who to stay with or which group to join.
Notwithstanding the indifference towards the above-described aspect of the Hungarian witnesses’ experience displayed by the predominantly non-Hungarian interviewers of large scale historical-memorial projects other than the DEGOB, survivors from Hungary repeatedly insist upon their previous lack of knowledge and unpreparedness. Tellingly, these issues arise even more frequently in late testimonies recorded by Yad Vashem, the Spielberg-project, or by the Fortunoff Video Archive for Holocaust Testimonies.
Intellectuals had to face the fact that documenting the Holocaust, especially Jewish life during the Holocaust in the ghettoes and camps, must be largely based on testimonies, viz. on memories of individuals. Thus, they needed to think about the nature of memory and its utilization in historical research on the large scale. Theoretical thinking about the workings of memory and of memories themselves, which were increasingly viewed as complex processes rather than constant givens, became crucial areas of investigation in psychology and literature. Psychoanalysis and High Modernist literature fervently addressed the issues of memory from the beginning of the 20th century-on. In the aftermath of the Holocaust, however, historical research and documentation initiated by the surviving remnant had to address these issues on a large scale, which, in turn, changed historical thinking. Analyzing the questionnaires and the testimonies prepared by the various large-scale historical-memorial projects in the immediate aftermath of the Holocaust, together with existing theoretical and methodological reflections, we can study the changes in the now intimately connected concepts of memory and those of historical research.

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